Posted by: childbirthtruthsquad on: July 21, 2010
http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=1349
Back at LaMaze’s Science and Sensibility we get a twofer of evasion. The link shows the blog’s host, Amy Romano gushing over the Netherlands and their study of home birth safety. She promotes it and the study as gold standards of health care and research.
When it is pointed out that The Netherlands has terrible death rates whether homebirthing or hospital birthing because they use midwives for both places, the tone changes. First, there are erroneous statements trying to defend this midwifery paradise (and baby nightmare). When those are shot down as patently false, Ramano goes missing from the conversation. Her minnions try to deflect attention away from the news of The Netherlands very poor ranking among european countries, by arguing about which countries are in Europe. I believe their next order of business will be to nominate The Sudan to the EU so The Netherlands will have company at the bottom of the perionatal health rankings
Their views on the world are as imperialisitic as their views on childbirth. And they don’t want you to see them embarass themselves by acting narrow-minded, so the below was not published.
When critics of midwifery change the subject it is called “derailing”. When midwives do it is called “discussion”.
- July 17th, 2010 at 20:59 | #2
Derailing? Isn’t that what they call it in your country?
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“Or perhaps from your perspective, “all of Europe” does not include “those people”, only “real Europeans”? (ie, Western Europe).
It is true that among the 9 countries classified by WHO as “Western Europe”, the Netherlands’ rate of 8 per thousand is next to last, just ahead of Luxembourg (which is so tiny that its rate may be less reliably comparable).”Well, I descend from “those people” and I don’t consider myself to be of European descent. I’m Slavic. I guess, you and the other the “real europeans” feel they have the right to tell everyone else who and what they are and just annex us at will because you are so superior!
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July 17th, 2010 at 21:19 | #3
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@Indiana
“EU does not = “all of Europe”
Facts are facts, geography is geography, and hyperbole is hyperbole.”And they are whatever the oh-so important people of Western European descent dictate to the rest of us little people.
“Any reasonable person reading that original statement would assume that “Europe” = “Europe” not “Europe” = EU.”
And now She That Must Be Obeyed has commanded what we all must think…..
Yes, your majesty. Oh, and no you are not Butt Naked, your clothes look fabulous.
I can’t believe you are evading addressing major flaws with your imperilistic views on childbirth with your imperilistic views on the world.
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